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</table>SysopJhttps://theosophy.wiki/w-en/index.php?title=Eighth_Sphere&diff=45247&oldid=prevPablo Sender at 18:40, 21 April 20212021-04-21T18:40:59Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In [[Mahatma_Letter_No._68#Page_17|one of his letters]], [[Koot Hoomi|Mahatma K.H.]] mentions the concept of "the dwelling of Mara" as being the Buddhist equivalent of the "planet of death." However, no such place is known in the Buddhist teachings that have become standard. The Mahatma's reference was taken from a book published in an 1871 titled, ''A Catena of Buddhist Scriptures from the Chinese'', by Samuel Beal. Searching for the original source of the sutra quoted in Beal's book, Theosophical and Buddhist scholar David Reigle found it in the ''Ta leou t’an king'', a Chinese translation of a lost Sanskrit sutra belonging to the Dīrghāgama collection. Reigle also found a reference to this concept in one of the earliest Buddhist Sanskrit texts we have--the Mahāvastu, which belonged to the vinaya of the long-defunct Lokottara-vādin Mahā-sāṃghika Buddhists.<ref>For more information see [http://prajnaquest.fr/blog/the-dwelling-of-mara/# The Dwelling of Māra] by David Reigle</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In [[Mahatma_Letter_No._68#Page_17|one of his letters]], [[Koot Hoomi|Mahatma K.H.]] mentions the concept of "the dwelling of Mara" as being the Buddhist equivalent of the "planet of death." However, no such place is known in the Buddhist teachings that have become standard. The Mahatma's reference was taken from a book published in an 1871 titled, ''A Catena of Buddhist Scriptures from the Chinese'', by Samuel Beal. Searching for the original source of the sutra quoted in Beal's book, Theosophical and Buddhist scholar David Reigle found it in the ''Ta leou t’an king'', a Chinese translation of a lost Sanskrit sutra belonging to the Dīrghāgama collection. Reigle also found a reference to this concept in one of the earliest Buddhist Sanskrit texts we have--the Mahāvastu, which belonged to the vinaya of the long-defunct Lokottara-vādin Mahā-sāṃghika Buddhists.<ref>For more information see [http://prajnaquest.fr/blog/the-dwelling-of-mara/# The Dwelling of Māra] by David Reigle</ref></div></td></tr>
</table>Pablo Senderhttps://theosophy.wiki/w-en/index.php?title=Eighth_Sphere&diff=45246&oldid=prevPablo Sender: /* The Dwelling of Mara */2021-04-21T18:40:37Z<p><span class="autocomment">The Dwelling of Mara</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>Nor must you laugh, if ever you come across Pinda-Dana or any other Buddhist Sutra and read: “Between the Kama-Loka and the Rupa-Loka there is a locality, the dwelling of ‘Mara’ (Death). This Mara filled with passion and lust, destroys all virtuous principles, as a stone grinds corn.(*) His palace is 7000 yojanas square, and is surrounded by a seven-fold wall,” for you will feel now more prepared to understand the allegory. (* This Mara, as you may well think, is the allegorical image of the sphere called the “Planet of Death” — the whirlpool whither disappear the lives doomed to destruction. It is between Kama and Rupa-Lokas that the struggle takes place.)<ref>Vicente Hao Chin, Jr., ''The Mahatma Letters to A.P. Sinnett in chronological sequence'' No. 68 (Quezon City: Theosophical Publishing House, 1993), 195.</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>Nor must you laugh, if ever you come across Pinda-Dana or any other Buddhist Sutra and read: “Between the Kama-Loka and the Rupa-Loka there is a locality, the dwelling of ‘Mara’ (Death). This Mara filled with passion and lust, destroys all virtuous principles, as a stone grinds corn.(*) His palace is 7000 yojanas square, and is surrounded by a seven-fold wall,” for you will feel now more prepared to understand the allegory. (* This Mara, as you may well think, is the allegorical image of the sphere called the “Planet of Death” — the whirlpool whither disappear the lives doomed to destruction. It is between Kama and Rupa-Lokas that the struggle takes place.)<ref>Vicente Hao Chin, Jr., ''The Mahatma Letters to A.P. Sinnett in chronological sequence'' No. 68 (Quezon City: Theosophical Publishing House, 1993), 195.</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>But we have there not the mental plane as you know it, where Devachan is and where your thought is working, but its corresponding sphere reflected downward as it were. There is the world as we know it, and the denser world which is part of it. As we have our astral, there is a lower astral which is denser than the dense physical, and so also you have the mental reflected down below the lower astral. There is the same correspondence in this that you have in the reflection of a mountain in a lake. The lowest part of the mountain is the highest part of the reflection, and so you look downward and downward until the apex of the mountain is the deepest point in the water—the law of reflection, of course—a perfect analogy. This is often called a devolution, instead of evolution, a proceeding downwards instead of proceeding upwards. Of course, at this stage, very few people pass downwards in this way; there is only an occasional case.<ref>Annie Besant, ''Talks with a Class'', (Adyar, Madras: The Theosophical Publishing House, 1921), 22.</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>But we have there not the mental plane as you know it, where Devachan is and where your thought is working, but its corresponding sphere reflected downward as it were. There is the world as we know it, and the denser world which is part of it. As we have our astral, there is a lower astral which is denser than the dense physical, and so also you have the mental reflected down below the lower astral. There is the same correspondence in this that you have in the reflection of a mountain in a lake. The lowest part of the mountain is the highest part of the reflection, and so you look downward and downward until the apex of the mountain is the deepest point in the water—the law of reflection, of course—a perfect analogy. This is often called a devolution, instead of evolution, a proceeding downwards instead of proceeding upwards. Of course, at this stage, very few people pass downwards in this way; there is only an occasional case.<ref>Annie Besant, ''Talks with a Class'', (Adyar, Madras: The Theosophical Publishing House, 1921), 22.</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr>
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